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Women of NASA - Can of Worms

SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,120

So Women of NASA won the latest ideas review and find it more than a little outdated. The idea that women need special recognition for being women seems to me to be unhelpful if the goal is for everyone to be treaded equal.

I would have rather seen a people of NASA set that included women and people with different ethnic backgrounds as well as white men.

Once again we seem to have yellow minfigures representing white people but I hope we will see them all become fleshy when the set is released.

Saying all this I will pick up the set as I collect all things NASA and there could be some very useful torsos, I hope they all get unique printing and that they don't get skinny waists so that I can buy two sets and create their male counterparts because we wont be getting a Men of NASA set, now that would be sexist wouldn't it?

 

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  • LordmoralLordmoral Puerto RicoMember Posts: 161
    edited February 28
    I agree, my wallet is happy with this Idea project (no Modular construction site). But we shall see with The Iron Giant and Lego Dinner).
    edit: I forgot to also list the ship in the bottle.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 14,866
    edited February 28
    I'm sure it will sell well. Things like that do.

    I don't really see the point of it though. It's a display set of minifigures that many people probably haven't heard of, but will be produced as they want to be seen to be politically correct, supporting women in STEM. The achievements of the women of NASA are nothing without the achievements of men of NASA (and vice versa). It is a shame they don't produce a more balanced people of NASA - but that isn't what the people wanted or voted for at ideas. The only males they will celebrate are the astronauts themselves.


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  • dspigeldspigel HonoluluMember Posts: 406
    I'm going to hold judgement till the final product is revealed. I think if they include the little vignettes with many interesting printed pieces @ a RRP of $39.99, it will do fairly well. Then again it could be another exosuit.
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 14,866
    ^ I imagine it is more likely going to be another Research Institute / Female Scientist Minifigure Pack. It is essentially the same idea, just based on real people.
    VorpalRyu
  • maniacmaniac Yorkshire, UKMember Posts: 674
    edited February 28
    As said above, this should have been a 'People of NASA' set and not a 'Women of NASA' set to give equality. Not that much play value here either.

    Disappointing result by TLG.
    dougtsVorpalRyu
  • iso3200iso3200 97 miles from Brickset TowersMember Posts: 1,765
    Looks like a minifig pack with a couple of minibuilds to get around the *no minifigure pack* guidelines.
    OmastarVorpalRyu
  • AstrobricksAstrobricks Minnesota, USMember Posts: 427
    ^ Exactly. It's not special recognition. It's SOME recognition.
    MattPetersencatwranglerOmastarbeemo
  • MaffyDMaffyD West YorkshireMember Posts: 1,708
    Ironically, those who might really stand to benefit by learning something about the role of women in STEM will probably buy Voltron instead (if it gets licensed) and ignore this completely.
    mdtvandyOmastar
  • GallardoLUGallardoLU USAMember Posts: 584
    I've been a fan of space exploration and study since I was young, I've even attended NASA's famed 'Space Camp' so I can appreciate the figures here and the achievements of the women they represent. but I don't think this entry warranted an official set. I still contend that this is a glorified minifig pack. (something to which the IDEAS platform has rules against). vignettes are in my opinion a cheap why to bypass that rule which doesn't really add to the entry outside of piece count. people voted for this based on the placard and the context of gender equality (an oxymoron for a set solely based on a single gender)

    that said I may get it as others have mentioned for the torsos and prints, depending on pricing and my disposition regarding this at the release.
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  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 1,713
    then they need to make the set with minidolls
  • Gooker1Gooker1 Member Posts: 482
    Guess I'm in the minority.  I really like this set and after seeing Hidden Figures, i'm even more excited to get this set. 
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  • Legopassion8Legopassion8 North CarolinaMember Posts: 1,128
    edited February 28
    Id rather see a Playboy pictorial titled Women of NASA  than some set designed for brown nosing the public for the money.  Probably just me though....
    VorpalRyu
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,120

    A couple of comments from the front page:

    "Well since the Brickset comments seem upset I called their decision a "political correctness ploy," I feel it is worth explaining my dissatisfaction with their decision. Was it smart for it to include Katherine Johnson who was depicted in a film recently? Yes. Do these women deserve to be recognized? Yes. But so does John Glen, Warner VanBraun, etc. Furthermore as an American I love NASA, but... let's be honest that the U.S.S.R made an equal contribution to space exploration which Lego deserves to recognize (the U.S.S.R. historically sending women to space first). That is why I called it "politically correct," because it stoops to the modern social political trends to earn Lego "public brownie points." 

    Just as I think an all male Lego set (like what we saw often in the 90's) was a mistake; I also think an all female set falls into the same error. You can't call one an error while calling the other flawless. If we really want to celebrate space exploration, let's celebrate all of it; and stop trying to draw lines along gender, race, and ethnicity for the politics we want to promote. STEM fields need to be promoted among both boys and girls, not just one or the other. Remember, in the modern US at least; more women are getting degrees then men now in school, suggesting that a method is needed to promote both genders to go to school, not just one or the other.

    It's also a lame minifig pack disguised as a set, so it has that against it too."

    VorpalRyu
  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,120

    A couple of comments from the front page:

    "As a female scientist, I personally find groupings like "Women in science" pretty patronizing. It's like there are (real) "scientists" and "women scientists" (wow, who knew!), and they are for some reason separate groups. I do understand the need to encourage young females to enter STEM fields, but ghettoizing "women in space," etc. hardly seems like the right approach to me. More useful would be to make a "Heroes of NASA" set, and have 50% female minifigs and 50% male (proportionate to the gender distribution of the population at large).

    Also I think the builds on this set look pretty boring, lol. Overall a disappointing choice in my opinion."


    VorpalRyu
  • MAGNINOMINISUMBRAMAGNINOMINISUMBRA Member Posts: 678
    A bit lost for words - just seems totally counterintuitive to what Ideas is supposed to represent. Argue as you need to but it's a glorified minifig set, no ifs, no buts, no maybes.  What's the point in people designing clever, interesting builds when they allow stuff like this to be produced?  This decision has REALLY left a bad taste in my mouth...
    dougtsVorpalRyu
  • arathemisarathemis sometimes here, sometimes thereMember Posts: 139
  • princedravenprincedraven Essex, UKMember Posts: 3,759
    I have to say I think 'women' of NASA is a really bad idea.  You cannot fight sexism by singling out a sex.

    I get that Lego have previously had FAR more male minifigures than female and I get that they are trying to address that, but choosing and naming a set, singling out and highlighting a particular sex, is not the way to go in my opinion.
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  • MAGNINOMINISUMBRAMAGNINOMINISUMBRA Member Posts: 678
    Too late to edit but thought I'd add that I would be just as disappointed and confused if it was a 'Men of NASA' or any other collection of five various minifigs with uninspired piecemeal builds attached!
    VorpalRyu
  • AyliffeAyliffe the UK innit?Member Posts: 255
    Honestly my biggest complaint with this project passing is how barebones the project's build is - hopefully the set designers can add a bit more weight to the set to stop it just looking like a minifig battle pack with a frame attached.
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  • OdeinoichusOdeinoichus CanadaMember Posts: 130

    Considering the lackluster nature of the Research Institute's builds I must concur that this Ideas set is rather ho-hum. However, considering the expensive nature of the past few sets it'd be interesting to see this in the cheaper venue, provided this is in the 40$ range compared to the 70$ we've been seeing for other sets so far.

    I'm not going to comment one way or the other on the other subject regards to this particular set, however I would like to see that old fishing store set soon to see what the official set will look like and cost. Shouldn't that be coming out soon? Considering The Yellow Submarine was released around November.

  • tamamahmtamamahm Member Posts: 1,744
    Well, this really should not be a surprise and maybe not for the reason others might give.

    The sets I would have really really wanted were

    Adam's family mansion
    Merchant House
    Mountain Observstory
    Banks of Plum Creek.

    These are all very large sets. Lego Ideas really only has so much bandwidth they are probably given in manufacturing each year, because of the main lines they have to produce. I believe they have alluded to the point before of having some limitations.  I am betting that since they have a large set that is coming out this fall, they either needed to balance things out with a smaller set due to manufacturing constraints or because it is better from a sales perspective to have variation in set size. With the Fisherman House coming out, going with a small set made the most sense. Of the smaller sets, personally, I like vignettes in general, so yes, I would buy about any vignette set. In addition, with how well the previous Ideas vignette set sold, and the recent movie Hidden Figures, it seems a no brainer that this would sell well, AND they do not need to get an approved license. While I would have strongly preferred one of the large sets mentioned, I am always happy to see a small vignette set.  Of the smaller sets they had  Basically, I think there are very sound reasons they went with this set, and much had to due with the size. Of the smaller sets, there were very few this time. Lovelace and Babbage would not have sold in the US. SpaceBalls would need a license, and of the vehicles the red sports car would do better. The Large Hadron collider, I can not tell if that is a mid-size set or not, but I think the appeal would have been small. The Star Wars set... I am pretty eh on this set, since they have made some versions of this in the past, and I also can not tell size on that. Basically, I think from a size perspective they were probably down between women of NASA and the sports car. 

    As for the question of should this set have been made because it showcases women, MattPeterson echoes many of my own thoughts. 
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  • PatsyWalkerPatsyWalker TorontoMember Posts: 70
    Id rather see a Playboy pictorial titled Women of NASA  than some set designed for brown nosing the public for the money.  Probably just me though....

    I could go for a classic PB Bunny CMF now that you bring this up.
    VorpalRyu
  • CM4SCM4S United StatesMember Posts: 1,109
    Oh come on... LEGO Ideas doing rehashes now?

    I am very disappointed. We need to wait a YEAR for the final product? No way! I can make this in 10 minutes on Digital Designer. What a waste of a slot. 

    I'm happy to see Voltron is still being considered, because that actually looks good and profitable. 
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  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,782
    edited February 28
    This for me is a classic bit of positive discrimination by Lego. Having 'women' in the title is as outdated as the decades of obvious discrimination against women at the hands of men. I can't help but think a lot of these decisions are an attempt to look progressive by 'evening things out', but ironically its just recognition and segregation on gender grounds, which should be way in the past.

    The project is laughably light on detail for an approved/pass, so as stated, one can only assume 'Women' was the magic word.

    CM4SDoctorMcGannprincedravenshikadiOmastarVorpalRyu
  • RedbullgivesuwindRedbullgivesuwind Brickset's Secret HeadquatersMember Posts: 1,583
    I rather like this set. I missed out on the scientists set and as I plan to get the rocket set and this will fit in nicely. 

    As per the comments I like the idea of these. I had no idea about any of the women featured in this set. But I can tell you anything you wanted about Buzz Aldrin etc. It's a great way to increase awareness about a relatively unknown area of history. This fits in very well with Lego's mandate - it covers science and history and furthers education. If they could also do one for some other women and guys this would really flesh out any NASA moc. 
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  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UKMember Posts: 2,680
    I don't think it's about equality in so much as it's about recognition.
    Let's be honest (and this is coming from a teacher), we know who Neil Armstrong, John Glenn, Alan Shepard, Buzz Aldrin, Chris Hadfield, and Story Musgrave, but many people can't name many women in the same field with the exception of Sally Ride.
    In terms of equality we have a ways to go (but we are making progress) but so much still needs to be accomplished.
    I take your point, but surely a lack of diversity in NASA is for NASA to address, not LEGO?

    The reason the women of NASA are less well known than the men is because it was (overwhelmingly) the men who were the astronauts. Like it or not, it's the astronauts who get the recognition, because going into space is the dangerous part of the missions.

    With the best will in the world, whilst doing all the calculations and everything like that is obviously important, it's nowhere near as dangerous - and therefore as high-profile - as being an astronaut.
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  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 1,713
    is it the 3rd lego ideas nasa set? and lego hasn't created its own nasa theme yet just like with minecraft?
    CM4Sbluedragon
  • ShibShib UKMember Posts: 4,251
    I don't have any problem with this being chosen, but it's not for me. Given that it got the votes incredibly quickly and given how the RI sold out I can't blame LEGO for picking it.

    The issue for me is that it's just some minifigs with some pretty poor vignettes. I bought a copy of the RI because I thought the vignettes at least looked cool, but unless LEGO does some massive redesigning on those then there really is not a lot to write home about with this one.
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  • SithLord196SithLord196 Member Posts: 1,001
    Did they really have any other choice but to approve this set?

    The negative press they would have received for choosing to not produce this set would have far outweighed the relatively small negative reaction they're getting for approving it.

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  • SecretjediSecretjedi Member Posts: 135
    It looks quite dull. Any minifigure set would be to me apart from maybe Netflix Daredevil set :)

    Barely any building, just something to display. It looks like some frame eBayers sell with a Minifigure set.
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  • monkyby87monkyby87 Member Posts: 203

    Personally, I would prefer an actual NASA set with both men and women (all real people).  For instance, make a model of one of the rockets from the moon missions and then include minifigures of real people involved, an equal number of men and women.  This not only brings recognition to some perhaps unknown people involved in the program, but also provides an actual set.  As others have stated, one issue I have is that it's simply a minifig pack with a few small models to justify.  It's obvious that those small models were just the excuse to claim it's a set, but really the focus always was about the minifgures.  We can be honest and say that nobody really voted for it because they liked the little models.   

    I have no problem making female figures that represent real people and giving them recognition.  But to throw 6 in a box and claim it's a set isn't the best approach to it. 

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  • MattPetersenMattPetersen Florida, USAMember Posts: 254
    I don't think it's about equality in so much as it's about recognition.
    Let's be honest (and this is coming from a teacher), we know who Neil Armstrong, John Glenn, Alan Shepard, Buzz Aldrin, Chris Hadfield, and Story Musgrave, but many people can't name many women in the same field with the exception of Sally Ride.
    In terms of equality we have a ways to go (but we are making progress) but so much still needs to be accomplished.
    I take your point, but surely a lack of diversity in NASA is for NASA to address, not LEGO?

    The reason the women of NASA are less well known than the men is because it was (overwhelmingly) the men who were the astronauts. Like it or not, it's the astronauts who get the recognition, because going into space is the dangerous part of the missions.

    With the best will in the world, whilst doing all the calculations and everything like that is obviously important, it's nowhere near as dangerous - and therefore as high-profile - as being an astronaut.
    Women have been going into space as astronauts ALMOST as long as men have (in Russia even longer, see Valentina Vladimirovna Tereshkova)  However, due to our culture the men received more recognition, training, and jobs compared to the women (as you pointed out because obviously space is dangerous and women shouldn't be there, as per what our male centered culture felt for a long time). 
    So, it's not a NASA problem but a cultural problem.


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  • tmgm528tmgm528 Member Posts: 286
    edited February 28
    Paperballpark said:

    I take your point, but surely a lack of diversity in NASA is for NASA to address, not LEGO?

    The reason the women of NASA are less well known than the men is because it was (overwhelmingly) the men who were the astronauts. Like it or not, it's the astronauts who get the recognition, because going into space is the dangerous part of the missions.

    With the best will in the world, whilst doing all the calculations and everything like that is obviously important, it's nowhere near as dangerous - and therefore as high-profile - as being an astronaut.
    On your first point, I wouldn't say the issue lie with NASA. There is most certainly a shortage of women engineers in the workforce, but according to a 2014 NASA-wide survey 37.5%  of NASA's workforce was women. Perfect? No. But not horrendous in comparison with other companies. Government agencies tend to be a little more stringent on not having huge gender gaps.

    To your other point though I think the conversation on the broader is more about Male v. Female scientists in general. I could name plenty of men of the field, Kissinger, Oppenheimer, Einstein, Hawking, etc. where as when it comes to women the only name that immediately jumps to mind is Marie Curie. 

    Is this because throughout a big chunk of history women were confined to more traditional gender roles? Definitely. Should I still know more famous female scientists? Certainly. 

    I dont think the point here is to say these women are more famous/important than the Astronauts themselves, but instead to educate about the people whose blood, sweat and tears contributed to mankind going into space, while also shedding some light on female scientists. It also doesn't hurt that female NASA scientists in particular are on the public mind due to the relative success of Hidden Figures.
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  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 14,866
    richo said:
    This for me is a classic bit of positive discrimination by Lego. Having 'women' in the title is as outdated as the decades of obvious discrimination against women at the hands of men. I can't help but think a lot of these decisions are an attempt to look progressive by 'evening things out', but ironically its just recognition and segregation on gender grounds, which should be way in the past.

    The project is laughably light on detail for an approved/pass, so as stated, one can only assume 'Women' was the magic word.


    Discrimination of women wasn't always by men, and it still isn't. Plenty of women used to think that other women should be homemakers and some still do.

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  • catwranglercatwrangler Northern IrelandMember Posts: 1,555
    I'm delighted and I'll be buying it, but I hope that during the editing process it acquires a bit more of a vignette feel, along the lines of Research Institute (see: sets I stupidly did not buy). I can sympathise with people's disappointment that it's a glorified minifig pack (it wasn't my first choice either; I want substantial Ideas builds), but I do think its popular appeal and the fact they're already committed to two big sets in the Fisherman's House and Saturn V carried the day.

    In that case, the problem is that they don't commit more resources to Ideas sets (and yes, a NASA theme, perhaps marketed along the lines of Architecture, does seem like a thing they should be considering), not the fact that, like so many other aspects of pop culture, Lego is finally getting round to featuring more women. 

    It's sort of a bittersweet result for me overall - there were SO many sets in this round that I wanted to see pass, especially the Merchant's House, Addams Family Mansion and Little House on the Prairie. (Fingers crossed that Voltron is just being held up by licensing issues; that set would be AMAZING.) I think Lego are being very circumspect re: the Fisherman's House and are reluctant to do another large building (and the Addams Family one probably was a good deal too large to make it, alas) until they've seen whether or not it sells. 
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  • SMCSMC UKMember Posts: 1,120

    CCC said:
    Discrimination of women wasn't always by men, and it still isn't. Plenty of women used to think that other women should be homemakers and some still do.


    And plenty of people look down on homemakers, like to add value to the world you need to be a scientist or such.

    Off to make a homemakers set, don't worry it wont be women only. Although the male minfigures will be seen as modern and enlightened but the female ones... (ok I'll stop here, I seem to have strayed into the danger zone)  

  • OdeinoichusOdeinoichus CanadaMember Posts: 130
    I would have paid good money for an Addams Family set, but perhaps getting the rights would have been too costly. That being said, we could still see one, something needs to replace the Firehouse Headquarters and an Addams Mansion would make for an interesting set. But then folks would be harping about how LEGO rips off Ideas creators for their own ideas, just like with FH.
  • GallardoLUGallardoLU USAMember Posts: 584
    edited February 28
    I Mentioned above that I don't feel this should be a set, and I still stand by that however, I had forgotten about the upcoming Saturn V Ideas set (shame on me) and with that in mind it does elevate this as something I also want (more official NASA figures!)

    so the conclusion for me is that I am relatively happy with it as it gets me something I want. while still arguing against it as I don't think this was worthy of becoming an official set. (I would be perfectly happy with no sets Passing Ideas review this time, and letting Lego catch up with what they have already approved)
  • CCCCCC UKMember Posts: 14,866
    ^^^ Research Institute can still be regularly had for about £30 or so.

    I wonder what the pricing if this will be. Double Research Institute would mean about £35. Although £45-50 in today's climate is probably more realistic.
  • LegoboyLegoboy 100km furtherMember Posts: 8,193
    Nevermind the fact that the set is celebrating 'women of NASA' which doesn't overly bother me btw, how on Earth has it taken a slot up?  It's pants!  There's more excitement in a Pharaoh's Quest battle pack.  A very lazy decision by LEGO but I suppose it makes for a cheap instruction manual, "Push hair onto head, head to torso, torso to legs.  x5"

    [runs to design and submit a Women in Famous Large Mansion set.  Sure to be a big seller]
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  • SithLord196SithLord196 Member Posts: 1,001
    One thing that does bother me is that two prior vignette submissions, Science Adventures and National Parks, featured male and female minifigures and both were rejected. 

    The general consensus was that both sets were rejected due to their similarity to the Research Institute. Now that today's Ideas choice has shown that can't be the case, I am more curious as to why those two submissions were rejected.
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  • PaperballparkPaperballpark UKMember Posts: 2,680
    I don't think it's about equality in so much as it's about recognition.
    Let's be honest (and this is coming from a teacher), we know who Neil Armstrong, John Glenn, Alan Shepard, Buzz Aldrin, Chris Hadfield, and Story Musgrave, but many people can't name many women in the same field with the exception of Sally Ride.
    In terms of equality we have a ways to go (but we are making progress) but so much still needs to be accomplished.
    I take your point, but surely a lack of diversity in NASA is for NASA to address, not LEGO?

    The reason the women of NASA are less well known than the men is because it was (overwhelmingly) the men who were the astronauts. Like it or not, it's the astronauts who get the recognition, because going into space is the dangerous part of the missions.

    With the best will in the world, whilst doing all the calculations and everything like that is obviously important, it's nowhere near as dangerous - and therefore as high-profile - as being an astronaut.
    Women have been going into space as astronauts ALMOST as long as men have (in Russia even longer, see Valentina Vladimirovna Tereshkova)  However, due to our culture the men received more recognition, training, and jobs compared to the women (as you pointed out because obviously space is dangerous and women shouldn't be there, as per what our male centered culture felt for a long time). 
    So, it's not a NASA problem but a cultural problem.
    You're gravely misrepresenting what I said.

    I never said that 'space is dangerous and women shouldn't be there'. I said that 'going into space is the dangerous part'. Therefore as there have been a lot more men in space than women, it follows that a society which makes heroes of people who do dangerous jobs will know a lot more NASA male astronauts than NASA female astronauts.

    I did NOT say that 'space is dangerous and women shouldn't be there'. Clearly that's complete rubbish, and my estimation of you sank through the floor when you claimed that I'd said that.

    You're also factually wrong in claiming that 'Women have been going into space as astronauts ALMOST as long as men have'. Unless you class 'almost as long' as being 22 years difference. Alan Shepard was the first American man in space, in 1961. Sally Ride was the first American woman in space, in 1983. That is not 'almost as long'.

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  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 3,743 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 10,307
    edited February 28
    Legoboy said:
    Nevermind the fact that the set is celebrating 'women of NASA' which doesn't overly bother me btw, how on Earth has it taken a slot up?  It's pants!  There's more excitement in a Pharaoh's Quest battle pack.  A very lazy decision by LEGO but I suppose it makes for a cheap instruction manual, "Push hair onto head, head to torso, torso to legs.  x5"

    [runs to design and submit a Women in Famous Large Mansion set.  Sure to be a big seller]
    I fear this is setting a bad precedent. In order to get your IDEAS entry approved, you can put Lego in a tough position so they HAVE to approve it or suffer backlash.
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  • richoricho Member Posts: 3,782
    edited February 28
    Legoboy said:
    Nevermind the fact that the set is celebrating 'women of NASA' which doesn't overly bother me btw, how on Earth has it taken a slot up?  It's pants!  There's more excitement in a Pharaoh's Quest battle pack.  A very lazy decision by LEGO but I suppose it makes for a cheap instruction manual, "Push hair onto head, head to torso, torso to legs.  x5"

    [runs to design and submit a Women in Famous Large Mansion set.  Sure to be a big seller]
    and that's the folly in this, nail on the head. The magic word for Lego was 'Women', not the depth or creativity of the idea. I feel if this utterly bare bones idea can pass, imagine the easy pass for say Women of the World (Joan of Arc, Florence Nightingale, Jackie Kennedy etc), First Ladies anyone?? (Am impressing myself), Women of fashion, Police Women, you get the idea, in fact am over doIng it, all you needed for the Ideas submission was 'Women'. Auto approved.

    anything would have passed, apart from maybe 'Women of UKIP'.
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  • FauchFauch FranceMember Posts: 1,713
    Did they really have any other choice but to approve this set?

    The negative press they would have received for choosing to not produce this set would have far outweighed the relatively small negative reaction they're getting for approving it.

    but do many people think those articles are actually relevant? like the fuss about the wheel chair, can't people just be happy that we got one without falling in all the political correctness shit?
  • Pitfall69Pitfall69 3,743 miles to Legoboy's houseMember Posts: 10,307
    edited February 28
    ^^It doesn't have to be "women"; it could be "famous black historical" minifigures or famous Muslims. It puts Lego in a tough position.
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