^ Agreed. One set in my mind is the 7239 Fire Truck, it was released in 2005 and it is now 2012. 6 years, and still on the shelves at TRU, Walmart... etc. Why has LEGO decided to keep this set on the shelves for so long?
Keep in mind guys that although a couple of sets seemed to have truly retired lately (IF, etc.), LEGO still seems to be going through a shift in retirement patterns. It's not longer "2 years and gone - bet the farm on it". MMV could be available through 2015 for all we know. If it still sells at a solid rate, they have no good reason to cease sales. Fire Brigade? Who says they can't have four, or even five modulars available at the same time? But I know at lot of you have heavy money and space invested into some of these sets.
6212 was better, but they FINALLY got it *mostly* right with the current one. :) The windshield is still all wrong, too short, but what do you want? Go buy a 7191 if you want it to look right. Proof that given a budget, Lego can do it right, even in 2000...
It also needs a bottom, the flat bottom really ignores 1/3 of the ship.
But for the fact that they insist on making all these models white. I realize that even the lightest grey pieces are too dark... but man... the white drives me nuts.
I feel the EXACT same way about the SSD. Easily the most disappointing UCS Star Wars model aside from, perhaps, the snowspeeder.
@sidersdd, can't understand why on ebay/amazon etc, people think they can ask big money for the first wave of batman sets, when many of the relaunched sets are very similar. Certainly I now have no desire for any of the old sets. Surely that is telling?rich
I feel the same way about all the Star Destroyers...Someone should REALLY tell Lego that Star Destroyers are WHITE! :)http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Destroyer_White
To be fair, the original filiming models (at least from ANH) had been primed in grey before the white was applied, giving the finished product a slightly off-white look, so these don't tend to bug me even nearly as much as the X-Wings. Really, though, there are a ton of suspect colors on the SW models.
One question I have that I don't know the answer to...Was Lego this "collectible" even 10 years ago? 20 years ago? Prior to the past 5 years or so, did anyone care "nearly" this much about all this?Or is this recent?
the market is about to collapse.
the market is about to collapse. Why? Do you think demand will drop?
Hoarding cant be that new a phenomena. For example a few moments ago I was browsing the sales of sealed Orient expedition sets on bricklink and there's no shortage of 10 year old sealed sets, so someone must have been hoarding them. Not sure what point this makes, just an observation.I agree that we won't see the skyrocketing prices of CC or UCS-MF again, and also that there is a lot more supply than there used to be. I guess I just think demand will continue to rise as well.
I'm surprised no one has started a new thread on this market fear/crash/bubble lol, this thread has gotten so many comments recently.
It also depends a lot on what TLG does to retire sets and keep the speculation up.
I wonder how many non Lego fans will join thanks to LOTR sets. Perhaps a whole new wave of Afols is coming.
In order for things to stay collectible there has to be a limited supply and a high demand. I think Lego is selling so many sets right now and I don't believe the supply is small anymore. Lego is attracting so many people strictly looking to make money and that is usually when collectibles become less valuable. I think the market will suffer until they leave or move on.
It is interesting reading on all of the speculation on too much supply and crashes yet we see sets such as Winter Toy Shop and Emerald Night that were bought in massive amounts by resellers, yet the prices easily doubled in less than 3 months. Lets look at 10199 Winter Toy Shop since everyone knew when it was going to retire, it was discounted and hoarded heavily at $45, and it hung around for an eternity. On bricklink there are 588 sets to go around worldwide. There maybe a few hundred more on ebay. Prices on the bay are around $90, will probably bump to $150 around this Christmas when the new winter set photos are "leaked" and the collectors come out to play. Lets assume there are 800 sets total worldwide easily accessible to collectors online.....is that really too much supply to crash the market? To me it looks like a drop in the bucket. The only way I can see prices crashing is if Lego re-releases the same set.
Finally, retiring the old set and coming out with a "new" one allows them to have a price bump. :)
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